Thursday, May 25, 2006

Sidekick 3 Interface Screen Shot : EXCLUSIVE!

Have a look my friends, you can see some new icons, the grouped instant messenger piece and some cool new icons. Sorry the pics were later than I thought, but they are starting to pour in. Remember what I said about the unified messenging? See how it shows what that MSN and Yahoo are connected and AIM isn't? So they are all still separate, but somehow they work as one. Pretty slick.

Super sleuths, what can you tell us about these new icons? One looks like a book with an @ on it. I can't really tell what the others might be. Any guesses? - BSD

89 Comments:

At 10:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

excellent work bsd

 
At 10:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i never doughted you BSD u been saying it all along and now the truth is coming out good job bro

 
At 10:30 AM, Anonymous  said...

the oen that looks liek a mini-sk seems like it may be for bluetooth...

 
At 10:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SWEET!

 
At 10:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn can't see shit on my sk

 
At 10:49 AM, Blogger Irvingdizzle said...

Can someone upload these pics and put other links here. please? I can't see them on my sk2.

 
At 10:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT'S ALL COMING TRUE!!!! LOL

 
At 10:59 AM, Anonymous machomacho said...

Yes...Its about time. This site officially official. I had my doubts but keep the pics coming!! Hiptop3 CATCH UP HOMEY!

 
At 11:03 AM, Anonymous Flippy McFetcher said...

BSD already uploaded them to blogger. You can go direct to the images at:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3620/494/1600/screen_instant_messblog.jpg

and:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3620/494/1600/Sidekick3blog.jpg

 
At 11:08 AM, Anonymous HURRY UP! said...

Im so excited for the SK3 i just want one in my hands already!!

 
At 11:11 AM, Blogger Irvingdizzle said...

Those links don't work on sidekick2. none of the pictures in this whole blog work on sidekicks. blah,lol

 
At 11:21 AM, Blogger alown said...

The AIM shows connection status. The other two clients just have their names. Shouldn't all three show a connection status? Also, some of those icons look cheap and crappy. I'm voting fake.

 
At 11:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look, no cartoon people in the background

 
At 11:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm voting fake since thats a Mac OS X background on a Sidekick....

 
At 11:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

yep, its photoshopped. good eye on the Mac OSX background. This picture is not real, sorry

 
At 11:44 AM, Blogger Rupert22 said...

of couse they are not in background look what icons its on. instant message. That happen on the sk2 also. You have to be on the phone icon to see the people. Come on now we all know that.....

 
At 11:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i guarantee its not a fake since im the person who sent in the shot...those screens are what we are running in our next issue of the tech mag i work at..just b/c the icons look fake doesnt mean the pic is fake lol..it means they are poorly designed

 
At 11:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

look its BSD....er rupert22.....er.....

why dont you man up and just use your own name. and yes, im too lazy to register

ITS A MAC OS BACKGROUND

 
At 11:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

on the top right of the screen, where it says "TMobile", there's only four of the squares that seperate the letters. in the TMobile logo, there's a fifth square at the end.

 
At 11:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://a248.e.akamai.net/
sec.yimg.com/i/ccs/fp/signin/
031006/group6.jpg

SK3 sighting?

 
At 11:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

look on your sk2 and youll see there is no 5th square...logos come in different variants depending on the medium..print logos and web logos sometimes differ slightly

 
At 11:58 AM, Blogger Rupert22 said...

1st of all that is my name so know your shit

 
At 12:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again, good job BSD, Keep it up!

 
At 12:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not a MacOS background you bunch of fucking high school dropouts. It's just similar to the one in 10.3 (Panther) think about shit before you post it.

<3 E.

 
At 12:11 PM, Blogger Rupert22 said...

Yeah man tell these kids in here whats good, like they know everything. why come here to judge, we come here for believe and true facts, if you wanna judge go another blog or find your own source of information besides this blod.

BSD NICE

ALSO THE OTHER SITE "HT3 JUST GOT YOUR PIC" POST IT AS TMOBILE MARKETING SHOT.

IT A RACE TO THE FINISH.

BSD KEEP YOUR LEAD

 
At 12:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh and the icons are the same as they've been since 2.0 (1.x had the catalog at the bottom iirc)...

Catalog, IM, EMail, Phone, SMS, Address Book, Camera

..you fucking idiot.

<3 E.

 
At 12:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dis 1 looks mad fake tha otha 1 looks real

 
At 12:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a link irving http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screeninstantmessspot0uw.jpg

 
At 12:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

THEIR YA GO, I BET HIPTOP3.COM DOESN'T HAVE THIS 1

 
At 12:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

THESE R NOT THE SAME ICONS AS 2.0 DID U FORGET U CAN SCROLL DOWN AND MORE ICONS COME UP? (DAMN USE UR FUCKIN HEAD, GIVE CREDIT WHEN CREDIT IS DUE)

 
At 12:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im not saying I believe this pic is real or not but I have a Mac, the backgrounds are similar, but not the same

 
At 12:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the date on the screenshot, if the pic is real this is a proto so the software would most likely have changed since then!

 
At 12:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know whats really funny? The fact that when someone posts an opinion you call them a highschool dropout and call us kids.....and then complain that the blog is going to hell. Well ya think you could make a proactive decision to HELP the blog?
Anyway, there are versions of Mac OS X. With each new version there is at least one new blue background. Figure it out.
Not, I'm not saying it's a Mac OS X background, I'm saying it could be. People could rotate things so no one could recognize them.
Now in the case that it isn't a Mac OS X background, which is 50/50...
This screendshot has curved siding. This is a photoshop tool.
Supposedly it was taken on a sidekick 3 and cropped.....now check out the new shot of the sk3....
The screen is all square when lit up...
Now why curved edges on this one?
And that font doesn't look right.
I'm calling a fake on this one, call me a kid, a highschool drop out, I don't care but this screenshot is probably a fake.
It's very convincing though, so BSD you did good anyway.

 
At 12:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You could tell this pic is fake....

when you highlight a icon the splash screen goes with the icon and it makes the highlighted icon bigger...and it puts it in the middle....this one does not has it highlighted but its still in the second to the top and its showing the the aim yahoo msn splash screen....

since when do sk have 24 hour time? 15:00

even tho the background looks like this pic
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2006/05/T-Mobile_sk3_0002.jpg

Well...this is some sorta great news to see how it may look like....

 
At 12:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Icons match too...hmm

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2006/05/T-Mobile_sk3_0002.jpg

 
At 1:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"ou could tell this pic is fake....

when you highlight a icon the splash screen goes with the icon and it makes the highlighted icon bigger...and it puts it in the middle....this one does not has it highlighted but its still in the second to the top and its showing the the aim yahoo msn splash screen...."

I dont know what SK you are using but it does NOT go to the middle on my SK2 with the latest software.

It DOES look like the IM one is bigger!?

Also dont forget this could be a proto SW and dont forget there is the OS 3.0 coming out...

 
At 1:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dnt like how it is...wierd but it reminds me of pokemon! It looks wierd the jump screen

 
At 1:29 PM, Blogger Richard said...

I hate to break it to you folks but the reasons you give for the image not being legitimate are pretty weak.

Let me debunk a couple of statements I've read:

Anonymous said, "I'm voting fake since thats a Mac OS X background on a Sidekick...."

Yes, it does resemble a Mac OSX background. However I am looking at my Mac right now and I don't see the additional horizontal ridges that are prominent in the Sidekick's new OS background. Also, the background image is consistent with the first hi-res image we saw of the Sidekick a couple of weeks ago.

Another anonymous said, "This screendshot has curved siding. This is a photoshop tool."

Very true. But take a close look at your Sidekick (if you have one), and you will notice it too has curved corners.

This final observation by yet another anonymous was the most hilarious of all when she/he said, "since when do sk have 24 hour time? 15:00"

Oh, probably since I bought my very first one on October 1, 2002 - the day the very first Sidekick became available. Why right now my Sidekick says it's 13:22. I guess mine is fake too.

While we should all accept these pictures with some skepticism, we should at least think before we type and make sure we are questioning properly.

 
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At 1:45 PM, Anonymous Been Waitin'... said...

It's so close I can taste it!!!

And its yummy...

 
At 1:54 PM, Anonymous T-Mobile said...

This conversation is fake - and you have WAY to much time on your hands.

Back to the subject, I think that this website sucks, and at first thought that the pic was tottally fake (the background DOES look very similar to a PC's background, NOT very sidekickish) However someone brought up the promo pic we've all seen, and it does indeed have the same background.

However, this guy DID post the background a while back, just the background, no logos or anything - how hard is it to photoshop that? Not hard at all

BUT - I must say that I am at a crossroad, leaning more toward "this pic is REAL".

Hard to say.... although I still like www.hiptop3.com better :)

 
At 1:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sucks that the interface looks elementary and childish like i said before in a previous post.. we aren't all kids. Im glad to see something new but unhappy that the sk3 is starting to look like its for kids 5 and up.

 
At 2:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous wrote...
A lot of stuff debunkign the myths.
I agree with you on the third, but im still quite skeptical on the second and the first.
Now I know no one will believe me but I still think its Mac OS X. I know its porbably not, but it's stuck in my mind.
The second thing, i still can't figure out. The curved edges do not appear on the SK3. Maybe it could have been photgraphed on another unit or something? I just don't know
And lastly, the overall look of the icons look fake.
Just my opinion, and the only way this blog gets anything done is good people like the guy debunking the myths and people coming to agreements and finding out new information.
Not people who have egos to prove under anonymous screen names.

 
At 3:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Americans think you have it so tough "ohh, this sucks! when will the sk just COME OUT ALREADY!!" (hehe just kidding of course) But what about us Canadians! We won't have an sk3 until 9 months after it comes out from T-Mobile (when it comes out to Fido)!!! And what about us even more unfortunate people, the ROGERS WIRELESS CUSTOMERS! Locked in a three year contract with NO CHANCE of ever seeing a Rogers Hiptop 3 because its "old technology" as a Rogers rep that I called said.

Anyways, I called T-mobile today and asked for release dates - the girl transfered me to sales saying "they might know something" This excited me because I usually just get a NO, not a transfer lol. Anyways, this girl said to keep checking T-mobile.com and keep calling, but she doesn't have any release dates. BUT, she DID say that since I live in Canada with Rogers Wireless, I COULD buy one off eBay when it becomes available, and then use my rogers sim (as it is GSM). Now, to be honest, she didn't sound like she knew a lot about this, as she didnt mention unlocking or anything. But assuming that I won't use the internet (therefore no need for a data plan) DOES ANYONE THINK THIS WILL WORK?!

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

 
At 3:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Americans think you have it so tough "ohh, this sucks! when will the sk just COME OUT ALREADY!!" (hehe just kidding of course) But what about us Canadians! We won't have an sk3 until 9 months after it comes out from T-Mobile (when it comes out to Fido)!!! And what about us even more unfortunate people, the ROGERS WIRELESS CUSTOMERS! Locked in a three year contract with NO CHANCE of ever seeing a Rogers Hiptop 3 because its "old technology" as a Rogers rep that I called said.

Anyways, I called T-mobile today and asked for release dates - the girl transfered me to sales saying "they might know something" This excited me because I usually just get a NO, not a transfer lol. Anyways, this girl said to keep checking T-mobile.com and keep calling, but she doesn't have any release dates. BUT, she DID say that since I live in Canada with Rogers Wireless, I COULD buy one off eBay when it becomes available, and then use my rogers sim (as it is GSM). Now, to be honest, she didn't sound like she knew a lot about this, as she didnt mention unlocking or anything. But assuming that I won't use the internet (therefore no need for a data plan) DOES ANYONE THINK THIS WILL WORK?!

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Please E-mail me at SharpAtlantis@aim.com if anyone can help!!

 
At 3:24 PM, Blogger Richard said...

SharpAtlantis@aim.com,

I have never used my SK in Canada so the question would be on which network do T-Mobile customer roam? If it is Rogers, then there is the possibility that your SIM would work in telephone mode. However, because the SK is so tied to the carrier and the servers, I don't know if there is really any benefit. If you want a QWERTY keyboard for SMS, would you be better off with a BlackBerry or a Treo?

 
At 3:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the response, I had a treo 600 but it broke, loved it but with the treo 700w and p out, im not sure if I could go back to it lol.

The frustrating thing is, I've called T-Mobile, Fido and Rogers about 100 times with the same question, inclusing posting it on forums, with different responses every time, which sucks.

The last time i called about this (but about the sk2, not 3) the guy said I wouldn't be able to text message or take pictures because every time I turn the phone off it will reset without the T-mobile network.

This really sucks, because I want a sidekick so bad - even if the sk3 comes out tommarow, I'd STILL settle for an sk2.

Rogers also has the Blackberry 8700, but I'm not really interested in that.

So, even if Rogers is not T-mobile's Canada roaming network, will I still be able to use it? I honestly am obsessed with the Sidekick, and I've tried hard to switch to Fido so I could at least get an sk2, but I've got a three year contract with Rogers.

I really don't see why it wouldn't work, I mean, it's a GSM sim card, doesn't it HAVE to work? I'd love to surf the internet on it, but I guess thats out of the question.

All I really want out of the sk2/3 is texting (i do this A LOT), camera and phone.

Thanks!

 
At 3:43 PM, Anonymous Nikkk said...

Its cool ;)<3

 
At 3:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS IS THE BIG SECRET THAT T-MOBILE HAS BEEN KEEPING FROM US ALL ALONG!!!! THIS IS THE REAL INTERFACE!!!!

 
At 3:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats more like what this company is hiding ;)

http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/02/apple_tablet.jpg

 
At 3:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

for all of the people who are asking when it's coming out, i just called t-mobile and they said late june, november, or december--they don't really have an exact date, and they said it may be around 300 to 400 dollars. also GOOD WORK BSD i think this is real. i believe in you babyy.! =]

 
At 4:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"they said late june, november, or december"

Sounds like someone let the term 'late Jube' slip, and then said to them selves OOPS...and added 'november, or december'

Maybe? Lets hope so.

 
At 4:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is odd the date and time are the same on that pic and this pic...



http://i4.tinypic.com/10p66vl.jpg

 
At 4:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This isnt coming until september... so dont get your hopes up everyone!

 
At 4:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So all you people say the icons are fake. Don't you remember how fugly the other icons were? Are you serious? You think this is uglier?
By the way, get a life.

 
At 4:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And you think you have one by posting that?

 
At 4:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone who says this picture is real is clinging to some kind of retarded hope. Look again, people. Look at the several different focus levels of all the fonts. The name "T-Mobile" is out of focus while the icons are sharp. the date looks so superimposed its ridiculous. This is obviously a screen cap and everything should be the same. This is all besides the fact that the background in an inverted MAC OS background

im gonna draw the line here and dub this an official photoshopped picture.

 
At 4:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The name "T-Mobile" is out of focus while the icons are sharp"

Take a look at YOUR SK2...if you have one! Same thing!

 
At 4:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the date is also a completely different shade than the rest of the fonts on the top bar.

 
At 4:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the date looks so superimposed its"

That also looks like that on my SK2 somewhat, though let's face it sharing pics like this (if real) do have their legal aspects the date could be altered on purpose..

 
At 5:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the date is also a completely different shade than the rest of the fonts on the top bar. "

Again look at your SK2!

Do we even look this closely at the devices we already have? Seems not...I had to double compare myself too...

 
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At 5:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do people fight to believe its true?
I mean that high res SK3....thats real.
This.....this isn't real. And what does anyone have to gain by saying it is?
I'm saying its fake not only because it really seems that way but to avoid dissapointment.

 
At 6:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

yo, why there is no wallpaper? it's look like layout design without wallpaper...it's suck again

 
At 9:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey i have a really stupid question, on any of the sidekicks, i plan to buy the new one, but when you go on aim, does it count as txts? or do you just pay monthy internet access and send as many as you want?

 
At 9:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think its real for two reasons.

1. Damn near every pic in the world is photoshopped in some way and some of yall foul out from reaching so hard to come up with reasons why its fake lol its just a pic... its really not that serious.

2. this BSD cat tags his pics with the spray paint tool in MS paint lol If he had any photoshop skills or even owned the PS program he wouldnt be using the MS paint spraypaint tool lol.

 
At 10:26 PM, Blogger Irvingdizzle said...

9:06 post.
Each IM counts as 1 text. even if its
just "lol" it counts as 1 text,lol

 
At 10:29 PM, Blogger Richard said...

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At 10:32 PM, Blogger Richard said...

Anonymous asked, "hey i have a really stupid question, on any of the sidekicks, i plan to buy the new one, but when you go on aim, does it count as txts? or do you just pay monthy internet access and send as many as you want?"

Despite what Irvingdizzle might have told you, ALL data is unlimited, both Internet and text messaging.

 
At 11:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Despite what Irvingdizzle might have told you, ALL data is unlimited, both Internet and text messaging."

EXCLUDING International TXT (SMS) messages that is.

 
At 4:20 AM, Anonymous Meow said...

yeah that irvingdizxle lied

 
At 6:52 AM, Anonymous Ryan said...

Its sweet, but too bad the screen resolution SUCKS ASS.

 
At 7:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For what the Sk is used for I've never had a problem with the screen res.

Look at it this way, IF you break it it won't cost you $500 to replace the screen alone...

 
At 8:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Iv been reading this site everyday 4 the past month nd I finally decided 2 comment 1 because I wanted 2 thank who eva this guy is who's doin the site because iv had the first sk when usta only have a cartoon character named johhny chase use it ne ways the first looks like a catolog the second seems 2 b the instant messaging the 3rd is email the 4th is a the phone now the 5th seems 2 b web browser or text messaging but giving the history of the sk's they allways put the web brower first so ima have 2 go with web browser as 4 the rest I really don't kno

 
At 11:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

on the new MTV SHOW "Blowin UP" staring Jamie Kennedy there are many scenes where you can tell he has a sidekick 3...... its not the cartoon verison trust me.... watch for yourself

 
At 12:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ur so stupid. If you werent blind you could see that IS the mister cartoon sk2. when he gets the voice mail from ice you can clearly see the phone. they put the camera right on it. you'd have to be retarded to think thats the sk3.

 
At 1:02 PM, Blogger EmoTeve said...

another thing. i posted the last comment. the turnaround on mtv shows isnt superfast. the latest that show was probably filmed was maybe march and thats pushing it. so how the hell could he have had it way back then

 
At 3:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

yea and plus why would t-mobile give jamie kenndey a sk3 out of all people??? he's not even a star anymore (lmao @ "anymore") he's trying to turn into a rapper or somthing because he's kinda "washed up". so just think about that.

 
At 3:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Probably because he got a new show on MTV when the release is right around the corner....
Duh...

 
At 7:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesnt matter. He's still not a celebrity. People that are more famous like movie stars or artists are more likely to get the phone. plus like someone said those recordings are old. Maybe sometime soon we will be seeing people actually using one in special events or what no, but from ACTUAL FAMOUS people, not washed up actors/artists that wouldn't be able to really give tmobile any kind of press/advertising help at all.

 
At 1:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO SIDEKICK'S WORK IN CANADA IF I WERE TO GET IT OFF EBAY AND IT WAS UNBLOCKED AND I USED MY ROGERS SIM CARD? I REALLY WANT A SIDEKICK SO CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?

 
At 1:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH AND NOT A SIDEKICK 3, JUST A SIDEKICK 2. SOMEONE HELP :)

 
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At 7:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes I am also researching a sidekick..any version just as sidekick. I live in CANADA and i want one so badly, but i want to make sure i can take my sim card from my razor(rogers) and put it in there
any help??

 
At 6:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i love sidekick3!iam so researching it and i am sooo like in love with them!

 
At 7:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

are there any serviers in Canada where you can purchase a sidekick 3 and get a plan?

 
At 7:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

**SERVICERS

 
At 7:32 AM, Anonymous creative said...

1. Introduction Two of the most common non-price mechanisms that allocate
objects to individuals are auctions and lotteries. In auctions the probability
that player i wins depends on the other bids, as well as the size of payments.
In a lottery all agents have the same probability of wining the object, and the
actions of the other players might affect the winning prize (for example, when
there is more than one winner the winning prize will be divided equally) but do
not affect the probability of winning. In this paper we conduct - both
theoretical and empirical - analysis of a selling mechanism that combines
elements of an auction and a lottery. The mechanism studied is used by the
internet portal http://www.BestBidsAuction.com, which also provided data of its
auctions. Before each auction, the auctioneer determines three parameters of the
auction: the highest bidallowed (which is less than 10% of the retail value of
the object), the maximum number of bids allowed before the auction closes, and
the entry fee each bidder needs to pay when submitting his bid. All of these
values are made public before the bidding starts. After the bidders pay the
participation fee, they submit sealed bids, less than or equal to the highest
bid allowed. The winning bid is the highest unique bid (in the sense that no one
else bid exactly the same amount) among all bids received. The winner then pays
his bid price and obtains the object. We call the selling mechanism adopted by
the portal a Gambling Auction, because it has features that make it a
combination of an auction and a lottery. First, the bid and the probability of
winning are not monotonically related, because a lower bid might well win the
auction if many bidders are placing high bids. Consequently there is no obvious
bid that maximizes the probability of winning and, as we show, in equilibriumall
bids provide the same probability of winning. Second, this mechanism is not a
pure lottery either because the winning probability is determined by the action
of the biddersand not by an exogenous randomizing device: the winner is the one
that submits the highest unique bid. Note that, under the symmetric Nash
equilibrium of the game, the equal winning probabilities this auction creates
and the expected payments can be 2


implemented using a lottery and thus the two types of mechanisms are outcome
equivalent if the bidders are risk neutral and follow the symmetric
equilibrium.2The theoretical analysis finds that in a symmetric equilibrium each
bidder chooses his bid using a distribution function over a support that has no
gap. This equilibrium strategy is increasing; namely the probability of placing
a higher bid is not less than that of a lower bid. The intuition is that
otherwise a higher bid would make winning more likely and thus be more
profitable than a lower bid, which would makeeveryone prefer it, destroying the
alleged equilibrium bidding pattern. We test this prediction with a novel data
set collected from the portal http://www.BestBidsAuction.com, which implements auctions
described above. The data confirms that the probability of a higher bid is not
less than a lower bid. We also find that an increase in the number of bidders
increases the number of bids for a given slot, although reduces the probability
that each bidder places his bid at this given slot. This leads to an increase of
the distance between the maximum bid allowed and the actual winning bid. We also
tested the theoretical prediction that each bid has the same probability of
winning by constructed a frequency table (Table 4). This table measures the
frequencywith which the highest bid wins by calculating the number of auctions
in which the highest bid won divided by the number of instances in which a
highest bid was placed. We repeat this exercise at lower bid levels and ask
whether the empirical frequencies are2This Gambling Auction is also interesting,
because it can be used in countries or U.S. states that forbid gambling, because
the rules of the mechanism do not meet the traditional definitions of lottery.
The mechanism might attract people who like participating in gambling
activities, since at a relatively low cost one have the opportunity to win a
sizable prize. The auctioneer will make more money using this mechanism than by
regular auction mechanisms if participants are risk lovers. Empirically, this is
the case since these auctions have a negative expected profit for a bidder. This
mechanism is similar to a rotating saving and credit associations (roscas) in
which group of people save for indivisible good. Each period allthe people
contribute to the rosca and it is given to someone randomly that is able to get
the good. In thenext period it is given to somebody else and so on (see Besley,
Coate and loury (1993)). In our mechanismthe good is also distributed eventually
randomly and each individual pays the participation fees, but theexpected payoff
is negative, since the auctioneer obtains a positive profit and the winner pays
extra amount of money (the winning bid) in order to get the good. 3

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indeed equal as suggested by the theory. Some formal chi-square tests and
informalanalysis suggest that the theoretical bid distribution is not consistent
with the data. In addition, unlike other studies that estimated the demand for
lottery games and found that consumers respond to the expected returns, we found
that consumer demand for this lottery is not sensitive to the expected payoff
but it is sensitive to the size of theprize. The paper is organized as follows.
In the next section we characterize the equilibrium strategies of the auction
game and provide some comparative static results. Section 3 describes the data,
while Section 4 performs empirical analysis. A final section offers some
concluding remarks. 2. Theoretical considerations We will first describe the
model we consider and then show that in a symmetric equilibrium a higher bid is
chosen with higher probability. There are kbidders3=3who all value the object at
the retail price, v. After paying an entry fee of c each bidder submits a sealed
bid that is less than a maximum value b << v. We assume that each bidder places
only one bid. There is a minimum bid increment, which we normalize to 1. The
winner is the one who placed the highest bid that was not bid by anyone else. If
there is no such bid, then we assume that the seller runs the auctionagain with
the same set of bidders. The internet portal reports that, in the rare event of
no unique bid, the bidders will be notified about the situation and asked to
submit a new bid without additional charge. The winner has to pay an amount
equal to his bid, while the losers only pay the entry fee. In addition we assume
that k, v and b are such that inequilibrium the winning bid is close to b; in
other words, we assume that the bid increment is low compared to the value of
the object, and thus the winning bid is close to 3In the auction at the above
website only the maximum number of bidders is specified, but the number of
actual bidders is usually close to the allowed maximum number of bidders, so one
may assume that the number of bidders is a known constant, k.4

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the maximum allowed bid b.4Under such conditions we make the simplifying
assumption that each bidder is interested in maximizing his probability of
winning the object, ignoring the payment consequences of his bid.5The entry fee
is already sunk at the bidding stage, so it does not affect bidding strategies.
First, note that the above game has an equilibrium, since after imposing
aminimum bid requirement of 0, the auction becomes a finite game. Moreover,
using Kakutani�s fixed point theorem we may also show that a symmetric (mixed
strategy) equilibrium exists. Claim 1: In any symmetric equilibrium there is no
gap in the support of the equilibrium strategy. Proof: Suppose there was a gap
at b�. Then bidding b� would strictly dominate bidding the next available bid
b�-1, which yields a contradiction in that b�-1 is in the support of the
equilibrium strategy. Note, that the above claim also implies that the high end
of the support is the maximum allowed bid, b. Then a symmetric equilibrium is
characterized by the number of bidsemployed, n, and the probabilities of each of
those bids,)1Pr(+-=ibpiwhere i = 1,�,n. Theorem 1: In a symmetric equilibrium
the probability of a higher bid is not less than a lower bid: i >j implies that
pi= pj. Moreover, pi = pjcan hold only when there are four bidders. In that
case, the unique equilibrium has p1= p2 = 1/2. Proof: See the appendix A. 4On
average, the distance between the winning bids and the maximum allowed bid in
our data is less than14 cents on average, and the maximum distance is less than
$1.5. 5The bidder�s problem is to choose bithat will maximize: P(bi)(V- bi)-C=
P(bi)(V-b+b-bi)-C= P(bi)(V-b)+P(bi)(b-bi)-C, where P(bi) is bidder i probability
of winning the object when placing a bid of bi, V is the object valuation, b is
the highest bid allowed and C is the participation cost. If all bidders follow a
symmetric equilibrium, then the probability of receiving the object is the same
for each bidder. Asmentioned before, the distance between the winning bids and
the maximum allowed bid in our data is lessthan 14 cents on average, and the
maximum distance is less than $1.5. So on average, when one maximizesthe
probability of winning the object and ignores the second part of the objective
function; one ignores a monetary incentive of only a few cents. If we drop this
simplifying assumption then our results do not hold as stated. It is no longer
necessarily true that the equilibrium does not have a gap, since the equilibrium
weidentify in the simplified game is not robust to large deviations, when a
bidder places a bid close to zero.However, since the largest admissible bid is
less than 10% of the value of the object, the incentive for this deviation might
be neglected in a first approach to model this game. This approach is also well
supportedby the data, since winning with a very low bid is very unlikely, as it
will be noted in the next section. 5

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The intuition behind these results is clear. Suppose, that the other bidders
randomize equally among the bids B = {b1., b2, �, bn}, where b1> b2> � > bn.
Then it is easy to see that if bidder i places the bid b1, then he has a higher
probability of winning then with any other bid that belongs to B. But this
yields a contradiction, because in a symmetric equilibrium bidder i use a mixed
strategy with support on B, and thus he isindifferent between any of the bids
belonging to B. The incentive to bid high iseliminated only if a bidder expects
that there are more bidders who placed a high bid than who placed a lower one.
Thus, in equilibrium each bidder must place a higher bid with higher
probability. Let us consider some examples with a small number of bidders.
First, if there are three bidders, then, in the unique equilibrium all the bids
down to zero are used. With Tpossible bids including 0 it holds that for all 1 <
i < T, pi= 1/ 2T-iand p0=1/ 2T-1is theunique symmetric equilibrium of the game.
If k = 4, it is easy to show that the unique symmetric equilibrium is such that
p1= p2= �. In the case when k = 5 an equilibrium is such that
0.010}.p0.083,p0.197,p0.337,p0.372,{p54321=====We can confirm that it is indeed
equilibrium. A bidder�s utility is his probability of winning plus the
probability of a complete tie divided by five. Suppose that a bidder places the
maximum allowed bid. A bidder wins in this case if no one else placed thisbid,
i.e. with probability .)1(w411p-=A complete tie occurs, if one or two other
bidders placed the highest bid and the other two or three placed the same bid,
or if all others placed the highest bid. This probability is
.)(p})(p)(p)(p){(p)(p6})(p)(p)(p){(p4pt4125242322213534333211++++++++=Since in
equilibrium each bidder obtains a utility of 1/5 we obtain the following
condition:.515w11=+t6

One can compute the corresponding probabilities, wi, tifor i = 2,3,4,5 and write
up thecondition that for all i:6.515wi=+itThen one obtains 5 equations in 5
unknowns (the �s) and this system has a unique real valued solution, the vector
stated above. Finally, one needs to check that by placing a lower bid than bid
5, the achieved utility is not higher than 1/5. By placing such a bid the
deviating bidder wins if and only if the other four bidders tied. Then the
incentive constraint can be written as: ip.51622514=+???=jijiiipppThe proposed
strategy profile satisfies these conditions and thus it is equilibrium.For k = 5
the distribution of the winning bid is
.}011.0,098.0,211.0,325.0,357.0{54321=====pppppFor k = 6, an equilibrium is
0.109},p0.248,p0.309,p0.334,{p4321====and the distribution of the winning bid is
}.122.0,247.0,303.0,329.0{4321====ppppFor k = 7 an equilibrium is
0.078},45p0.296,{54321=0.137=,0.22=,0.26==pppp7and the distribution of the
winning bid is .}084.0,137.0,219.0,272.0,287.0{54321=====pppppIt is apparent
that the size of the support of the equilibrium strategy is not monotonic.
Excluding the case of 3 bidders, which seems non-generic, one conjecture 6The
corresponding probabilities for wiand tiare different for every i. In order to
save space the complete set of equations is not reported here but it is
available upon request from the authors. 7We did not show that the above
equilibria are unique for a given k. For this one would need to show thatif one
considers a different number of bids for a given k than the one considered
above, then no solutionexists to the resulting system of incentive constraints.
We only showed at this point that there are no other equilibria for k=4, 5, 6, 7
when we consider up to 7 possible bids. Our conjecture is that these equilibria
are unique in these cases and moreover, for any k there is a unique equilibrium
of the game.7


that emerges is that the more bidders there are the less concentrated become the
equilibrium strategies. Although there is no monotonicity in the length of the
support with respect the number of bidders, our conjecture is that the expected
distance betweenthe maximum allowed bid and the winning bid (the Gap) increases
with the number ofbidders. Namely, it is more likely that a bid further from the
maximum becomes the winning bid when the number of bidders increases.
Theoretically this is the case when the number of bidders is 4, 5, 6 or 7.83.
The DataThis section describes the data. The data source is
BestBidsAuction.com 9which is the Internet website of Best Bids Auction, a
Arizona company that manages and implements private auctions designed to raise
money for selected charities and member non-profit fundraising organizations.
The internet auction process is a combination of a lottery and an auction.
Before each auction, the auctioneer determines, among other things, the highest
bid allowed and the maximum number of bids that will be accepted for the
auction, and makes this information available for the bidders. In order to
participate in an auction, bidders submit sealed bids, less than or equal to the
highest bid allowed in US dollars and cents and agree to pay a bidding fee for
each submitted bid. The auction is a sealed bid auction in the sense that when a
bidder submits a bid he does not know what the other bids are until the auction
is over. Each auction is closed when it receives the maximum number of bids or
meets the other closing requirements.10After the auction closes, the participant
that submitted the successful (winning) bid is determined. The successful bid
8The expected Gap when k = 4 is 5.04=g, and for the other cases it is,
078.1*4...*055515=++=ppg162.16=gand 458.17=gwhen the number of bidders are 5, 6,
and 7 respectively. 9All the information has been taken from
http://www.BestBidsAuction.com. 10An auction will remain open until either the maximum
number of bids allocated for the auction is reached or the auction reaches
maturation (63 days for auctions requiring less than 200 bids, and 183 days for
auctions requiring 200 or more bids) and has received the minimum number of bids
required to close. If the minimum number of bids has not been reached, the
auction will be extended until the minimum numberof bids is met. At that time, a
closing date of three days will be set and posted on the auction. 8

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is the highest unique bid out of all bids received in the auction.11Duplicate
bids are used to calculate the number of bids required to close an auction but
are disqualified from being selected as the successful bid. For example, if a
single auction includes the following four bids: $69.42, $69.42, $48.69 and
$65.44, the winner will be the one who submitted $65.44. In the very unlikely
event that an auction closes and there is not a unique bid, all participants
receive an e-mail describing the situation and are asked to submit a new bid
without additional fees. Table 1 gives summary statistics from the different
auctions that took place during 2003 and 2004. The information provided on the
website includes all auctions that havebeen conducted in this period. The
products auctioned were electronic appliances (computers, TV�s, video games etc)
and gift cards (provided by Target, Shell, Wall-Mart, Starbucks etc). The mean
retail value of the items auctioned was $414.169. The most expensive item
auctioned was a Panasonic 42�� Plasma TV with a retail price of $4999, while the
cheapest item was a Nintendo Game Boy with a retail price of $79.99. The Maximum
Allowed Bid was almost always identical to the Maximum Submitted Bid, which
means that in almost all the auctions the highest submitted bid was the highest
allowed bid.12On average, the maximum allowed bid was 7.2% of the retail
price,13and it had a mean of $30.83. The highest Maximum Allowed Bid, $624.38,
occurred in the case of the Panasonic 42�� Plasma TV, while smallest Maximum
Allowed Bid, $2.94, was in the case of a $100 Starbucks gift card. The average
winning bid was $30.70, and it was, on average, 13.69 cents below the Maximum
Allowed Bid (and the maximum submitted bid). We define Gap as thedifference
between the maximum allowed bid and the winning bid. The minimum of this
variable is 0, which mean that the maximum allowed bid was the winner. The
maximum 11A unique bid is a bid that is not a duplicate bid. A "duplicate bid"
is a bid submitted by a participant in anauction where another participant(s)
has submitted a bid(s) for the identical amount.12There are 15 cases out of 310
in which the highest submitted bid is less than the maximum allowed bid. In 10
cases the difference is 1 cent. 13It seems that the auctioneer choose the
Maximum Allowed Bid such that it will be, on average, less than 10% of the
retail price. An OLS regression of the Maximum Allowed Bid on the retail price
yield a coefficient of 0.072 with standard error of 0.0024 (t-value of 29.59)
and R squared of 0.7398. It seems that the Maximum Allowed Bid is also
positively correlated with the Number of Bids per auction. An OLSregression of
the Maximum Allowed Bid on the Number of Bids yield a coefficient of 0.375 with
standarderror of 0.020 (t-value of 18.37) and R squared of 0.5228. An OLS
regression of the Maximum Allowed Bid on both the Retail Price and the Number of
Bids per auction yields coefficients of 0.1765 on the retailprice and -0.6648 on
the Number of Bids, both significant at 1% level. 9

 

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